Anthony Barry: Meet the Scouser who is England's secret weapon in bid for World Cup glory

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Accrington was my first job and I was with the Under-16s."The manager at the time, John Coleman, was wanting me to be more around the staff of the first team and I was trying to up-skill myself as a coach. I had already started doing my badges at 24 because of a playing career that was blighted with injuries, so I'd started my badges young, finished them early and was given the role with Accrington Under-16s at 29."This was, for me, the exact opportunity I'd wanted.

But it was never something that ever stimulated me, I wanted to be around the men's game, that was my passion, where it was about three points."I wanted to be around tactical conversations that stimulated me, so that was where I wanted to be as a young coach. "For me that just wasn't how I wanted to begin."I wanted to be as close as I could to first-team football.

I had the courage and bravery I would say to go and make mistakes at a more senior level and it was just something that was always going to be my way from when I started these courses from 23/24."There are so many big names on these courses, I learned from very early on that, for me - I was a nobody in the game, I had no real profile to become a coach - I'd have to become a coach where I could do something different and that was always the idea: to do something different. To do something that was outside the normal realms of the progression of a young coach."I think my identity as a coach came pretty quickly, you mentioned Accrington and the way I coach has not changed.